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Attempting to "reform others" because you feel confident in your own spiritual beliefs isn't a public service it's gross arrogance.
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Personally, I don't think that the need to convert others to your belief shows any confidence in your belief or teachings, but rather just a need to assimilate others to your belief system out of some sort of craving for power or similarity that you just aren't going to accomplish.
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My spiritual beliefs are deeply ingrained in my heart. But its not my place to try and persuade others to my way of thinking, and I have no desire to. In my opinion, everyone is responsible for finding their own path up the mountain.
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My spiritual beliefs are deeply ingrained in my heart. But its not my place to try and persuade others to my way of thinking, and I have no desire to. In my opinion, everyone is responsible for finding their own path up the mountain.
Joseph Campbell once remarked that religions are like computer software. You have to choose the software that is compatible with your operating system.
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I'm confident in my beliefs to NOT try and reform anybody.
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I'm confident in my beliefs to NOT try and reform anybody.
But my beliefs are rather loose and open-ended, so converting someone to MY point of view might be quite a challenge. Most people want to believe one way or another, and not 'picking a 'ide' makes them uncomfortable.
(I'm the Switzerland of spirituality!)
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I'm confident in my own spritual beliefs that I don't need to reform anybody else. not my job to "reform" anybody else.
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One Reformation is more than enough, thank you. All I might be guilty of seeking to do, is to inform belief. I try to throw a little light into its dogmatic shadows.
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I am a do unto others type of girl. I am proud of my spiritual and religious beliefs but I don't try to coat others in it. That being said I don't want another person trying to coat me in theirs.
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I am supremely confident in my spiritual and religious beliefs, but it is not my responsibility to reform anyone. Each person is responsible for their own spiritual journey. I am happy to walk with someone who wants company on that journey, but that's it.
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I am supremely confident in my spiritual and religious beliefs, but it is not my responsibility to reform anyone. Each person is responsible for their own spiritual journey. I am happy to walk with someone who wants company on that journey, but that's it.
Anyone who feels a need to "reform" someone is judging their beliefs, and that is never a good thing. It immediately forms an us vs. them situation which will most likely go bad very quickly.
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It is not my business to reform others - only myself. I am eminently confident in my spiritual beliefs, and I also believe others need to come to their beliefs through their own effort and thought, not through reform by someone else.
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I think perhaps there is a difference between someone's spiritual beliefs and who they say they are. Therefore, trying to understand someone spiritually is like peeling an onion and therefore I would not feel confident enough of a spiritual cook to start peeling only to find something rather rotten and mushy at the core.
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This would actually be a good sign that there is still a long way to go.
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This would actually be a good sign that there is still a long way to go.
Wait a minute, am I doing it right now? Damn!
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I don't think there is a justification to ever try to reform other's beliefs. It's their belief and they have a right to practice it. We have a saying in the Wiccan Way: "It's my path, but it's not the only path." I try to live by this.
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Yes and no, I am an agnostic/Atheist and I feel extremely confident in reforming people away from religion. (not so much just being spirtual) . As far as justification goes, I used to never want to shake ones faith or talk about someones beleifs in the past, but after I read "The End of FAith" and "Letter to a Christian Nation" I felt it to be my moral obligiation to humanity to try and reform people. Not because religion causes war, or slows medical, technical, and social progression, but mainly because it stops people from thinking which I think is the biggest threat to our global community.
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Here's the thing: I like to talk about Jesus. Not Christianity, which I think very few people indeed like hearing about.
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Here's the thing: I like to talk about Jesus. Not Christianity, which I think very few people indeed like hearing about.
I think people like to hear good news, and is exactly why I often talk about Jesus. He IS good news! But I also want to be carful because I know when I say "Jesus" it means certain things to me, and a million different things to a hundred different people.
Saying that my spiritual beliefs are bigger than yours, and will therefore beat up your beliefs is so completely redundant. So in that way, I think it's a little obnoxious to ever try and "reform" someone. Nobody likes simply being done. I'd much rather discuss Jesus over a beer, encourage thought, and stand in community, rather than shout my lungs out on a street-corner.
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