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To look at this in a black-and-white manner is foolish.
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To look at this in a black-and-white manner is foolish.
Religion had it's place as a way to explain to people the mysteries of the world before we had modern science. However, the issue arose when a handful of people decided that- despite the fact humans had a system of methods and knowledge to explore and explain what they didn't yet know- they should still hold on to an archaic belief system.
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Situating this question in the past somewhat alters its meaning, in a way that I don't believe the author intended (based on his description). Whether or not religion is a productive and positive force today, it has historically united and comforted people (before science could do so, it would seem).
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It is quite a bold statement to say the world would be better without religion. So bold in fact that I think it is a little bit ignorant to say it in such a "black or white" manner. The only thing I can say is that if religion was never part of any government, the world would be a better place.
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There's a bit too much fear and ignorance in this thread.
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There's a bit too much fear and ignorance in this thread.
Those that believe the world would be better off without religion haven't spent much time in churches. The combined dollars and effort applied by most religious groups is astounding. You cannot disregard disregard these efforts. And you cannot match them with any other group.
Also, to suggest that prejudice, war, etc. would be eliminated or even greatly reduced if religion didn't exist, is greatly disingenuous.
There's nothing to fear here, folks.
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Your world will get better because religion existed, as humans tend to learn from mistakes. Like all things, religion has good and, it has bad. Some groups of humans have exploited the dark side of religion for many years by focusing the world on the aspects of religions where all religions do not agree. It is now time more groups form, based on the aspects of all religions,science and history where "and only" where they do agree in that you will find new truths.
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I absolutely believe that the world would be a better place if religion has never existed. You don't need religion or science to tell people what is right and what is wrong. People just know; and surprisingly it almost always revolves around the gold rule. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." this rule applies very well in almost every circumstance. I believe that if we were to tally up all the hatred, bigotry, violence, and immorality for both sides, we would see that throughout history the group that tends to be more moral, less violent, less bigoted, and less hateful would be those without religion.
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I absolutely believe that the world would be a better place if religion has never existed. You don't need religion or science to tell people what is right and what is wrong. People just know; and surprisingly it almost always revolves around the gold rule. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." this rule applies very well in almost every circumstance. I believe that if we were to tally up all the hatred, bigotry, violence, and immorality for both sides, we would see that throughout history the group that tends to be more moral, less violent, less bigoted, and less hateful would be those without religion.
I mean all you have to do is look at the current state of affairs in the US. Everyone has their own religious view and is trying to force that view on others because they feel it is the absolute truth that all must have in order to be saved. This creates many an issue between believers and nonbelievers for sure, but perhaps even more so between believers of one faith or religion and believers of a different faith or religion. Then we begin to see all kinds of negativity and violence emerge. I'm not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to believe what they wish to believe in, but I am saying that if people would stop and look at all the hard facts both in and outside of religion, facts that a based on an absolute measurable truth and not just faith or belief in something that can neither be proven or disproven as far as we are aware, then people would come to an agreement much easier and there would be far fewer episodes of violence and hatred.
If we could all just put aside religion and not look at people as damned or sinners simply because they do not believe the same things you do, and instead choose to follow the "golden rule", the world would be a much better place and we as a species would be able to make much greater progress in all endeavors because there would be a much greater level of understanding and equality.
Anyway, those are just some of my thoughts on the subject.
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No. I don't in any way. Religion in many ways has been a curse. Religion has begun wars, and created barriers, and started prejudices and segregation, yet religion is ultimately what will unite us. We must put up with the worst, the most horrific, and the scariest experiences and emotions before we can get to ultimate "bliss". Peace and harmony will only happen when the religions of the world unite. Therefore, religion is crucial to humankind, and without it we would perish.
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No. I don't in any way. Religion in many ways has been a curse. Religion has begun wars, and created barriers, and started prejudices and segregation, yet religion is ultimately what will unite us. We must put up with the worst, the most horrific, and the scariest experiences and emotions before we can get to ultimate "bliss". Peace and harmony will only happen when the religions of the world unite. Therefore, religion is crucial to humankind, and without it we would perish.
And we ultimately have a choice. We have the choice to look back and say "wow, religion is AWFUL. Religion has caused disunity across the world, maybe in my own community, and maybe in myself at times". We can be pessimists. Or we can look at our own religion (assuming you have one), and say, look at all this has done for me. Look at the people it has brought into my life, and the positive choices it has influenced me to make. Look at the unity is has (hopefully) brought to me and my life. And we can use that power to motivate us, to reach out to others who, even if they have NOTHING in common with us, there is a good chance that they have the common denominator of a belief and love of their religion. That is our saving grace: the realization that we have faith in common with people all across the world. When the world comes to realize that, peace will be found.
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No, I dont think our world would be better if it never existed.
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No, I dont think our world would be better if it never existed.
I believe that for better or for worse, our civilization is here as it is today as a result of religions and faiths that go as far back as the first society that thought up a divine realm and it's inhabitants. The sense of morality that humans have is something that has been groomed through the generations and centuries.
Going as far back as to when people feared the gods, like in Greek mythology. Back when we developed the notion that disobeying our "maker" would invoke their wrath; where we would get a thunder bolt to the face from Zeus. Comparing to today's society, sin is the equivalent of disobeying. God's wrath is the burning flames of hell or a plague of locusts.
And so our sense of morality changed from a process of nurture to nature. Therefore, we no longer need the "crutch" that is religion to learn how to be a decent human being or find our purpose in this universe.
We all know that history repeats itself. So I can only hope that today's religions will eventually evolve or disappear as it did with the Greeks, Romans, and even Mayans.
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I think even the most primitive of cultures have inherent morality. I also believe even primitive cultures have a faith-based belief system (if you want to define that as religion).
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I think even the most primitive of cultures have inherent morality. I also believe even primitive cultures have a faith-based belief system (if you want to define that as religion).
Now this is just my belief...Faith became bastardized when religious "leaders" manipulated groups of people to seek power, material and monetary gains. Power became more important than the service of encouraging faith.
I am fearful of organized religion because I want faith to be my religion.
As for atheism, it is a religion. It is a belief.
If there were no stories handed down from generation to generation and no physical evidence of a higher being, wouldn't we still have faith in something? Faith that the sun comes up every day and the moon every night etc.
Would the world be better without faith? Is it possible to have a world without faith? Wouldn't curiosity and science kick in to create a belief or faith? Aren't we always seeking a truth to justify our inherent faith? Could the world exist and grow and evolve without faith in something? Even atheism challenges one to explore a possibility for a truth to be uncovered scientifically, right? I mean, isn't atheism really a faith that there are alternative explanations to the unexplained?
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I think the problem isn't with religion but with people. The no.1 use of religion in every society is to control, some might call it building a stronger society but at the end of the day someone will feel oppressed. I think it's almost sad though, because something that should be a beautiful spiritual experience, a voyage to enlightenment is stifled and destroyed by institutions working for their personal gain. Using religion as a scare tactic to get people to do that they want. but i guess some people need something to believe in and that is why religion exists; i think the world would be better off without religious institutions because no matter what good intentions they may start out having, there is a lot of evidence to preach their inevitable fall from the nobility of their cause in order to survive. People are flawed and since they practice religion it in turn will be flawed and thats is where the fault lies.
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Maybe, maybe not, I think religion was necessary in the beginning and even benifical. but it quickly transformed from a way of bringing people together to a tool to divide and conquer. Regardless of where we would be without it in the past, we surely don't need it now, it is holdling back our progression as a species, and in my opinion is the biggest threat to our survival today.
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Yes yes yes yes!!! Science and faith could have been one harmonious conglomeration to answer our questions instead of rival siblings in competition for our belief.
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I'm sorry, but I have to address this comment from @WarmRyBread because I find it to be both demonstrably false and inherently nauseating:
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I'm sorry, but I have to address this comment from @WarmRyBread because I find it to be both demonstrably false and inherently nauseating:
"Those as*holes who took over 2,800 lives are just more brave because of what their religion tells them will happen after they sacrifice their life. they were going to do that either way because they didn't want the USA butting into their world and how they want to run it."
This seems like a difficult lens through which to view religion as a force for good in the world. Putting that aside, you assert that these people had religious assurances of thriving in the afterlife, but that had *NO* logistical bearing on their decision to sacrifice themselves in the interest of mass murder and destruction. This makes absolutely no sense. Someone who did not share those beliefs would be motivated differently.
The first part of your statement further solidifies the argument @yeagerstew presented. "Those as*holes" acted in a manner which was consistent with their faith, justified by their religious teachings and rewarded by divine assertion. Their faith did not just make them "brave". In their perspective, it made them morally right. Without that faith, that perspective could not exist.
My nausea came reflexively from seeing the word "brave" I think. If you can classify the actions of these radical extremist butchers to be brave, you must have a revolting understanding of what constitutes bravery.
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Faith, no. Morality-crushing "rules" and unbending prophecies based on the era of primitive man, yes. Half the gay-bashers and racial elitists wouldnt exist in this world if it wasn't for their precious bibles telling them to be so. And no i'm not against beleiving in God and yada yada, but so many stupid people on this planet are so bent on reading the Bible word for word (which they shant) that they think it's somehow right to start whole wars about other's beliefs. Why do others care so much about stranger's apparent damnation to hell? Oh, I almost forgot. If they convert to Christianity, Catholicism or whatever the church gets more money. riiiiiiiiiiight. The whole fixed religion thing is a government scheme if you ask me. Believe what you want, but riddle me this: Does God need money? hmmm.
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Faith, no. Morality-crushing "rules" and unbending prophecies based on the era of primitive man, yes. Half the gay-bashers and racial elitists wouldnt exist in this world if it wasn't for their precious bibles telling them to be so. And no i'm not against beleiving in God and yada yada, but so many stupid people on this planet are so bent on reading the Bible word for word (which they shant) that they think it's somehow right to start whole wars about other's beliefs. Why do others care so much about stranger's apparent damnation to hell? Oh, I almost forgot. If they convert to Christianity, Catholicism or whatever the church gets more money. riiiiiiiiiiight. The whole fixed religion thing is a government scheme if you ask me. Believe what you want, but riddle me this: Does God need money? hmmm.
Also if you think about how the world works, the government wants you to be rule-abiding Christian citizens because if we go to church every Sunday, listen to the top 40 music, smoke, and fuel up our cars, we don't cause any trouble, and are the perfect consumers of bullshit. Sheeple.
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No the world would not be better if we didn't have religion. Religion give people something to believe in. To pick people up when they are down or to help them get through a tough time. What ruined religion is Organized religion. I have my beliefs and I am not tied down to an organization that tells me what I can and cant do with my life. And as crazy as people think other religions are they still build structure and most of them create good values. It's just the system is corrupt. Even Atheism in my eyes is a religion.. they all believe in science. Its a group of people who share the same values and beliefs.
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No the world would not be better if we didn't have religion. Religion give people something to believe in. To pick people up when they are down or to help them get through a tough time. What ruined religion is Organized religion. I have my beliefs and I am not tied down to an organization that tells me what I can and cant do with my life. And as crazy as people think other religions are they still build structure and most of them create good values. It's just the system is corrupt. Even Atheism in my eyes is a religion.. they all believe in science. Its a group of people who share the same values and beliefs.
And Mr. Yeagerstew's comment below is a little off in my eyes... those people who fly planes into our Twin Towers or those people in church raping children as he put it are bad people either way... They are not good people who turned bad because of their religion. and I feel those people just use religion to hide behind because they are so bad. Those as*holes who took over 2,800 lives are just more brave because of what their religion tells them will happen after they sacrifice their life. they were going to do that either way because they didn't want the USA butting into their world and how they want to run it.
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Everything we believe in is a religion. One of the definitions of religion is details of belief as taught or discussed. If there were to be no religion then we lose value, free will, and state of mind.
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Quite simply, yes. I find it quite amazing that we squak and make fun of things like time travel and teleportation (things that at least have some science behind them) and at the same time praise concepts of the super natural influencing our every day lives. I find it sad that Atheism has been given a negative reputation.... If anything, I would think that it would be considered more normal to believe in the laws of science than to put ones hope in writings that have been translated dozens of times from thousands of years ago.
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I don't think this is even possible to have a world without any kind of religion (remember, 'religion' is just a word). Call it what you want, there will always have been wonder/curiosity and attempts to explain things we do not understand, both from science and philosophy/religion. And there will always have been persuasive leaders that, for whatever reasons, will have been able to convince others that their ideas are worth believing in. Whether it manifested itself differently, you will always have situations where groups form that share some sort of belief - and those beliefs can be used to both unite AND divide. Either way, I think it's our ability as a species to come together in communities that ultimately made us strong. And if there was some sort of fear of god that helped MOST people not rape/kill each other, then that was probably beneficial. So, short answer, no, I don't think the world would have been better without religion, because I can't even imagine what that world would have looked like. DISCLAIMER: I am not a religious person.
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Absolutely. When is the last time you heard of a scientist flying an airplane into a building or an architect raping a church kid. Faith builds false ideas that pervert reality.
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The problem with believing in anything (including atheism) is that after several generations something that was anti-religious can become a religion. For example, Jesus spent three years of his life telling people that their religious rituals wouldn't bring them closer to God and that they needed to evolve into a higher level of thinking and being. And what happened? 2000 years later we've taken the way Jesus lived, and small things he did once, and turned them into religious rituals (communion, Easter, Christmas). It's like playing the telephone game. By the time you get to the end of the line, the message is completely garbled.
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The problem with believing in anything (including atheism) is that after several generations something that was anti-religious can become a religion. For example, Jesus spent three years of his life telling people that their religious rituals wouldn't bring them closer to God and that they needed to evolve into a higher level of thinking and being. And what happened? 2000 years later we've taken the way Jesus lived, and small things he did once, and turned them into religious rituals (communion, Easter, Christmas). It's like playing the telephone game. By the time you get to the end of the line, the message is completely garbled.
However, I believe we are spiritual beings currently inhabiting physical bodies, and therefore we need something with which to feed our spirits. Whether it's organized religion or simply a personal form of faith in something or meditation isn't important.
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morality is relative. and I can't think of a period in the history of humankind where some kind of "religion" didn't exist..even if it was just the tribal shaman. so would the "world" be "better"? probably not. but I really have no basis for comparison
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I think the world would be a better place if people weren't discriminated for their religious beliefs or people weren't forced into a religion. I believe religion is important for those who do hold beliefs because sometimes people need something to believe in and it isn't our place to take that away from them.
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I believe that religion is good in theory, but our inherent imperfections and our humanity pervert it. History has shown this over and over again. I don't think that means we should abandon religion, or our perversion makes it bad. The burden lies on the individual to live it out right.
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That is equivalent to me to asking: would the world be better without science?
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That is equivalent to me to asking: would the world be better without science?
After all: "science" lead to "industrialization" which has lead to poisoning our air and water, nuclear waste, and global warming. Not to mention: sophisticated killing machines like mustard gas, weaponized anthrax, intercontinental ballistic missiles, and -- well -- even the plain old bullet has killed is fair share of people.
So science is AWFUL... right?
When people look to discredit "religion", all they do is point out the awful stuff of all the disunity and destruction it has wrought. Which -- it has. But so has science.
In my view, "civilization" is built on the shoulders of advances in science and advances ethical thought and behavior. Ok, "religion" is not synonymous with "ethical thought and behavior" -- but at the core of most religious teachings is *supposed* to be about increasing ethical thought and behavior.
Science does not itself guarantee that science will be used to advance civilization. Neither does religion. But either *can* be the cause for enlightenment and advancement.
In my view: the civilization with a good practice of BOTH is going to rock. **
(** I'm still looking for it. Let me know when you find it. In the mean time, I'm building my own... wanna help?)
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To me, Religions just seem so one-dimensional. It's hard to build your own philosophy, incorporating many independent experiences and abstract perceptions into the mix, if you build your beliefs around one book and affiliation. Religion apparently teaches us that we should love one another, yet the spiritual disconnection that occurs because alternate religious documents almost exclusively assigned to a geographic location, form cultures and societies that are never entirely accepting of other contrasting philosophies (otherwise we would keep religion out of politics and education).
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To me, Religions just seem so one-dimensional. It's hard to build your own philosophy, incorporating many independent experiences and abstract perceptions into the mix, if you build your beliefs around one book and affiliation. Religion apparently teaches us that we should love one another, yet the spiritual disconnection that occurs because alternate religious documents almost exclusively assigned to a geographic location, form cultures and societies that are never entirely accepting of other contrasting philosophies (otherwise we would keep religion out of politics and education).
I know we look at our own culture and take pride in our traditions, which in turn gives strength to the established routines within religion, government and education. But the fact is, these beliefs and principles were established BEFORE we came to discover alternate cultures. Shouldn't we then see that the bond of being human should over-rule the cultural differences we have and force us to forge a further enlightened view of the future that embodies the true potential of our collective traditions and the questions that are beckoned by their amalgamation?
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I think the foundation of religion can be spiritually beneficial. It's the fanatical elements that kill souls.
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I think its easy to blame religion for causing lots of prejudices and creating lots of stereotypes, but I don't think religion is actually to blame, it's the individual. It would be better if certain people modified their interpretation of religion to become more accepting, but I think abandoning religion all together would leave us without a spirit. It's okay if you don't believe in God, but you have to believe in something. People who only take what is right in front of them miss out on so many beautiful chances to better themselves either tangibly or abstractly. Religion can be a uniting and disuniting organization, but it still initiates conversations on a more individual level that help establish a moral code, and self-understanding.
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No.
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No.
There is no better or worse in terms of our interaction in the world. It seems to me that judgement comes from our deep conditioning which guides our intuitions and ultimately our moral rationalizations.
We are just the same as all matter and evolved species in the universe and act accordingly. We are not separate from the world and that includes our ideas about religion or anything for that matter. The concept that we would have done something "wrong" with creating religion, or abolishing it for that matter, is to stand psychologically divided from the laws of the universe and our world in particular. There is only what we are and what we do and how we become aware of or understand that in relation to the whole of the world of which we are an aspect.
What is a better world?
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for all of time people have had religions, polytheistic and monotheistic both. It was the first way of keeping order. I think the problem with religions is when politics gets mixed in
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For most of you it seems your response is that it is best that we move away from religion because it was only useful for the past. I want to ask also what would the purpose of living be if there was no religion? I understand a lot of people will say for the purpose of improving this world but when your gone you would be gone your purpose on Earth was not meaningful. What would be good from that?
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I feel Religion was created to control. I feel the Bible is a book of stories, and that is all they are is stories.
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I feel Religion was created to control. I feel the Bible is a book of stories, and that is all they are is stories.
I feel we are moving away from religion, due to the fact that all the different stories do not fit the whole. I feel that when The Whole is included in all things created, we will most definitely leave religion behind, like we leave the past behind. We are awaking to be Multisensory Beings and I feel it everywhere. I do not belong to any religion, it just does not serve me, or the whole anymore. :)
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Oh, boy! I've steered clear of the religious questions on here because of all the time you've gotta put into 'em!
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Oh, boy! I've steered clear of the religious questions on here because of all the time you've gotta put into 'em!
Ah, well. Might as well throw in my two cents.
The idea of religion, just like all ideas, is supposed to be beneficial towards someone or something. In it's pure, untouched form as just an idea, a concept, religion is a belief in a higher power shared between many peoples.
But, as with anything, when people get ahold of such ideas and try to manage them to their liking, it goes to hell (no pun intended).
Think of ideas such as Communism; in theory, as an idea, it works! and it's brilliant! it's perfect! it's fair and everybody is happy!
Obviously, however, it doesn't work that way in reality.
Religion as an idea isn't the problem; it's the people that manipulate it.
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I think people view religion as a rule book, or even a coloring book. "don't go outside the lines".. or your life won't be beautiful anymore. For me, as a strong, independent catholic, I say religion is more personal than that. It's a relationship with your God. The church you belong to is just a group of people who have a similar relationship with God that you do. Now would the world be better if we never had religion? No. A million times no. Sure you might get confused, or frustrated when all the answers aren't right there in front of you but what's the excitement in that? You cannot be fully sane and say that religion isn't of any good for the world. Even if you're an atheist you can agree that religion at least brings sanity, well-being and love to people. No one knows all the answers, but at least religion can help you make sense of the mess that surrounds us.
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People don't believe in not believing in Bigfoot. Same goes for atheism. Atheism is not belief in non-belief. It's just non-belief.
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Though bashing religions is a popular sport, since the late 1800’s, it’s a classic case of throwing away the baby with the bathwater. As spiritual souls, NOT having religion in the broader sense of traditions and cultures which help mankind nurture, understand and connect to their spiritual selves – is a disaster, reducing life to the mundane and temporary. In fact, the only good thing about having a human body is precisely the possibility we have of advancing spiritually, deeply connecting with God. On the other hand, we have suffered thousands of years of brutality and stupidity in the name of God, which is certainly undesirable.
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Though bashing religions is a popular sport, since the late 1800’s, it’s a classic case of throwing away the baby with the bathwater. As spiritual souls, NOT having religion in the broader sense of traditions and cultures which help mankind nurture, understand and connect to their spiritual selves – is a disaster, reducing life to the mundane and temporary. In fact, the only good thing about having a human body is precisely the possibility we have of advancing spiritually, deeply connecting with God. On the other hand, we have suffered thousands of years of brutality and stupidity in the name of God, which is certainly undesirable.
The solution, therefore, is not to get rid of religion completely and become shallow atheists, but to get rid of dogmatic, hateful, “my God can beat up your God”, “I’m saved, you’re going to Hell” kind of religion. What we need is a balance between revelation and reason, which is what attracted me to the path of bhakti-yoga, or Krishna consciousness, the most ancient monotheistic tradition on Earth.
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We are or have reached a tipping point that calls up your point. Up until about 100-150 years ago world issues and deaths have been caused by religious tensions. More recently most of the worlds deaths and tensions come from science; pollution, weapons or corporate/ government greed. I'm more curious what will happen when those who blame religion for all of the worlds problems have nothing left to pin all of their problems on, which calls to your point of atheism.
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We are or have reached a tipping point that calls up your point. Up until about 100-150 years ago world issues and deaths have been caused by religious tensions. More recently most of the worlds deaths and tensions come from science; pollution, weapons or corporate/ government greed. I'm more curious what will happen when those who blame religion for all of the worlds problems have nothing left to pin all of their problems on, which calls to your point of atheism.
Religious morality was led in the past by the idea that not agreeing with my beliefs means you should be kicked out of town or killed. This is only most prevalent in some areas of the middle east however it hasn't been common thinking for centuries. Today it is often the idea that you follow certain rules and you get to heaven or Jesus will save if you protest military funeral. It isn't that and rarely has anyone ever agreed with those things. Statistics would 100% agree with that. I've never witnessed a suicide bomber and 99.9% of people haven't either.
Whats the morality of science/ atheism in my opinion? It's advancement at any cost which can range from dropping atomic bombs on innocent civilians, high level executives s******g over everyone else to make more money for themselves or places like China where they topple entire towns to build urban sprawl, build factories with no emissions standards and cause tens of thousands of cancer related deaths every year and take no responsibility for it. There is good science of course, medicine and clean energy for sure but how often do those things win out when pharmaceutical companies take no issue with marking up their pills and outright denying life saving medicines to those who can't otherwise afford it while reaping billions in profits. Then lets call to the rising sea level linked to CO2 emissions which will displace hundreds of millions of people and cause trillions in expenditures over several lifetimes. Please point to any of those things as religions fault. I'm waiting for the rational reasoning to come forward.
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You dont believe in atheism. Atheism is non-belief in a theistic god.
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You dont believe in atheism. Atheism is non-belief in a theistic god.
The world with us in it has almost certainly never been without religion of some kind.
Unfortunately, when we got to the stage where we had enough sense to reject ridiculous gods, some fuckwit dreamed up a singular one, so secretive that its very nature is still a total mystery today. People like a good mystery, as series like Colombo and Pimp my Ride clearly demonstrate - so a totally mysterious god was a shoe-in for permanent residence, even though the writers have had to work like crazy to keep the plot interesting.
I suppose it possible that one day the star of this long running show will finally turn up for a catwalk call, but I'm not holding my breath. I turn blue when I do that, so this is probably a good move on my part.
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I feel I need to criticize the phrasing of your last sentence. One does not believe in atheism. Atheism is not a belief system. “In fact, "atheism" is a term that should not even exist. No one ever needs to identify himself as a "non-astrologer" or a "non-alchemist." We do not have words for people who doubt that Elvis is still alive or that aliens have traversed the galaxy only to molest ranchers and their cattle. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.” -Sam Harris
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Even if there were no religious belief in a God, there would be a belief in something because mankind needs to believe. Some other belief system would have developed. The belief in fire. The belief in food. Or the belief that everyone should have another beer.
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Even if there were no religious belief in a God, there would be a belief in something because mankind needs to believe. Some other belief system would have developed. The belief in fire. The belief in food. Or the belief that everyone should have another beer.
What comes from atheism? Uncomplicated simplicity and inner peace. No guilt and no shame.
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Religion yes-- which is man's attempt at reaching God. A relationship with God, through his son Jesus, No (a vastly different thing)
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believing atheism, no but being atheist yes, religion was just a stepping stone to give us the idea of morality, now that we understand what morality is and what means to be human, I don't think we need it anymore
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