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Actually, if I think about it, “objective proof” of God’s existence would make no difference to me. My conscious thinking seems to be very comfortable with God’s existence – or to be more exact, it does not stand in the way of faith. If there is anything standing in my way of expressing faith (as “showing fewness of words and an abundance of deeds”) it is not rational and it would therefore not be much effected by rational argumentation. A full experience of what I would perceive as “God’s presence”, on the other hand, would make an enormous difference. Hmmm… having said that… judging from the faint glimpses I have had, I can not imagine how what I perceive as “I” could stand a “full experience of God’s presence” without ceasing to exist. I’d be quite satisfied with just as much experience of God’s presence as I can stand.. And since experience has something to do with the capacity to resonate, maybe the desire to maintain what I use to call “I” is the very reason why I haven’t yet had a fuller experience of the “presence of God”.
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Consider the following:
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Consider the following:
A full experience of God's Presence would leave you desiring to do ONLY what God wants. If you are familiar with the "Power of God" you know that this guy does NOT **** around. He will SMITE your fallen fanny without a second thought. However, do remember that the Israelites got to experience God first hand in many instances in the Bible. They still turned away and forgot about him!!
FAITH doesn't "work" in today's empirical world. We actively teach our children faith is silly, through textbooks and facts. These things are great, but when you don't get both sides of the story, it's hard to believe there's anything more to be heard.
I think it's funny that God decided his plan would be to hide away and remain "invisible" in most cases.
People who claim to have "heard" or "seen" God are commonly deemed insane and stuck in asylums.
Guess it makes the whole "heaven" thing that much more worth it, huh?
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although @griz has a good point, I think that a full experience of god's presence would change us to such a degree that EVERYTHING would be changed. Objective proof of god's existence would be an "over there" sort of thing. "Hey, isn't that neat?" we'd say. "god exists, after all."
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although @griz has a good point, I think that a full experience of god's presence would change us to such a degree that EVERYTHING would be changed. Objective proof of god's existence would be an "over there" sort of thing. "Hey, isn't that neat?" we'd say. "god exists, after all."
On the other hand, if we were to experience god and see that we are really not separate from god (or from each other, for that matter) then yeah. Things would be changed. For the better.
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I believe that we only ever experience an infinitesimal part of Gods presence. To be able to experience God fully, or at least as fully as any human is capable of, would surely be a life changing experience. I think I would like that very much :)
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full experience of God's presence
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full experience of God's presence
feeling and knowing something are two different things
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Personally, I see TOO much evidence in Scripture that the exercise of faith is, for some yet unknown reason, is vital. Objective proof would negate faith. We would simply catalogue "Objective Proof of God" in one pigeon-hole or another, close the book, consider that information "owned", and not think about it anymore.
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Personally, I see TOO much evidence in Scripture that the exercise of faith is, for some yet unknown reason, is vital. Objective proof would negate faith. We would simply catalogue "Objective Proof of God" in one pigeon-hole or another, close the book, consider that information "owned", and not think about it anymore.
(How many of us learned about vitally important processes in school -- miosis and mytosis, the sodium pump by which substances are moved around our bodies, how mitochontria work -- catalogued them away and now barely even think about them or even remember how they work?!)
And I think a full experience of God's full presence would probably blow me away! I'll settle for the various spiritual experiences I've had where a presence (probably more partial than full) was definitely experienced!
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Objective proof is much better. I would convert from atheism in a heartbeat (as would every intelligent atheist).
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I would want objective proof that was so objective that it could not be considered subjective by anyone else, and also so objective that i got the full experience of God's presence.
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Deep in my heart I know god exists I would love to have the proof.
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