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Disease begins when you hold onto something for too long. Agree?

That's what my yoga teacher told us as we were getting a good stretch in... asking us to wring out the bad stuff (stress, emotions) so that it doesn't affect us in the future. Reminds me of something Buddha might say... about letting go.

Can we hear some examples of this axiom ringing true from fellow SPers?

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I was listening to a meditation thing last night before going to sleep and one of the things the guy said was "let go and let God." Then later as I was falling asleep this sentence popped into my head, "If you let go, God will catch you."

not sure anyone should be treating this as simplistic...

stress is what people who are not dead have

holding on to certain aspects is also an essential activity ( memories of trauma that can help avoid similar more dangerous occurrences...

as for the number of times in the hospice we heard people say that cancer is caused by repressed anger - on one level it made me think - yes there is something in that - on another it didn't match all the people I met with cancer...

but to me being healthy certainly includes being quickly able to let go of sh*t...

literally and metaphorically...

When I learned to release my Darth Vader-like grip on the desire for universal order and accept that life is messy (it took Prozac to get me started) I became a much healthier person physically, consciously, and in spirit.

Thank goodness I got passed the Prozac...

I'm holding on tight to a relationship that seems to be falling apart faster the tighter I grasp. I fear that giving up will have worse consequences for others (collateral damage) yet "trying" seems to drive it deeper down. I'm afraid that "letting go" will mean "giving up". Very confused.

What your yoga teacher's alluding to is one of the yamas (first limb of yoga): aparigraha, which means non attachment, or non grasping.
Regarding the claims about making you healthier... I think that's probably true mentally, maybe not so much physically.
Attachment (to things, ideas, people) is the root of a lot of suffering, but (imo) only because it also produces much happiness, too. Go fig.

This can be extremely true, although it varies person to person. But holding on to something too long, such as an ex-bf/gf/spouse, loss of family or friend, or whatever it might be, can lead to dangerous behavior. Alcoholism, drugs, irrational behavior, etc etc. I definitely agree hanging on too long can lead to disease.

Agree to a certain extent. We have had study after study that the condition of the mind influences the health of the body to a certain extent. A mind at peace has less stress, less stress means less cortisol. Cortisol:

* Proper glucose metabolism
* Regulation of blood pressure
* Insulin release for blood sugar maintanence
* Immune function
* Inflammatory response

Diseases that result from a higer amount of cortisol:

* Impaired cognitive performance
* Suppressed thyroid function
* Blood sugar imbalances such as hyperglycemia
* Decreased bone density
* Decrease in muscle tissue
* Higher blood pressure
* Lowered immunity and inflammatory responses in the body, slowed wound healing, and other health consequences
* Increased abdominal fat, which is associated with a greater amount of health problems than fat deposited in other areas of the body. Some of the health problems associated with increased stomach fat are heart attacks, strokes, the development of metabolic syndrome, higher levels of “bad” cholesterol (LDL) and lower levels of “good” cholesterol (HDL), which can lead to other health problems!

So yes, it is correct in some cases.

There are two; physical disease and non-physical disease. I think the yoga teacher was referring to non-physical diseases that develop from the "bad stuff".

the mind and body are one, not separate entities, of course holding onto to negative feelings will have negative effects on the body.

but this question is a bit vague, 'too long' would be a subjective term.

My perception of the truth of this matter is that holding on in general is bad bad bad. Rather we should all allow ourselves to feel and think freely but not grasp onto feelings and hold them in our minds, it is during this process that our thoughts can become so entangled with our own egos an passions that there is very unlikely a positive outcome.

The goal, for me at least, is to be very observant and witness all the thoughts and emotions but not place a value or judgment upon them but rather them flow out to of me.

there are no bad emotions, just emotions, as we become more observant to out minds and bodies we will realize that negative emotions don't allow our bodies to 'feel' the love or positivity, that exists around and within us. At that point allowing negative emotions free reign would be clearly absurd.

Agree. I think bad emotions and stress are what make you more suspectible to disease (lowering your immunity) and in some cases even causes it. Emotional health affects our physical health a lot more than we'd like to believe.

disagree... a disease could be airborne or waterborne

disagree.

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There are two; physical disease and non-physical disease. I think the yoga teacher was referring to non-physical diseases that develop from the "bad stuff".

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Disease begins when you hold onto something for too long. Agree?

I was listening to a meditation thing last night before going to sleep and one of the things the guy said was "let go and let God." Then later as I was falling asleep this sentence popped into my head, "If you let go, God will catch you."

When I learned to release my Darth Vader-like grip on the desire for universal order and accept that life is messy (it took Prozac to get me started) I became a much healthier person physically, consciously, and in spirit.Thank goodness I got passed the Prozac...

I'm holding on tight to a relationship that seems to be falling apart faster the tighter I grasp. I fear that giving up will have worse consequences for others (collateral damage) yet "trying" seems to drive it deeper down. I'm afraid that "letting go" will mean "giving up". Very confused.

There are two; physical disease and non-physical disease. I think the yoga teacher was referring to non-physical diseases that develop from the "bad stuff".

Agree. I think bad emotions and stress are what make you more suspectible to disease (lowering your immunity) and in some cases even causes it. Emotional health affects our physical health a lot more than we'd like to believe.

disagree... a disease could be airborne or waterborne

disagree.

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When I learned to release my Darth Vader-like grip on the desire for universal order and accept that life is messy (it took Prozac to get me started) I became a much healthier person physically, consciously, and in spirit.

Thank goodness I got passed the Prozac...