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I like the Bahai faith a lot. It helps people to answer that question, "Where is my place in religion?" I have not become a member, but I love the study circles. They encourage people from all different backgrounds and faith systems to come together and investigate for themselves what they believe God wants for us and from us. Maybe you should check into it. Rainn Wilson is actually a Bahai.
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"A person who commits crime does not grow into a loving life-long relationship with the person upon whom they commit a crime." Love is not the answer to all social problems. A 80 year old man can say he loves a 20 year old woman. That does not mean that a relationship between the two is right. A man may say that he loves his dog, that don't mean that it is okay for the two to get together. Many adults love children but we still hold pedophilia as wrong. A man may say that he loves two women but marrying both of them is still immoral. A married woman may say she loves her boss, but engaging in sex with the individual (unless she is married to him) is still considered adultery. Stop hiding behind the word "love". Gay sex is immoral, unhealthy, and wrong. The Bible calls the act an abomination. Call homosexuality what it is. Stop making excuses for it.
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"Why would anyone choose to be a gay person?" That is a good question. But people do. There are all kinds of former gay people in various Christian ministries who have many stories of why they chose to be involved with homosexuality also why they have chosen to leave. Why do some people choose to be bisexual while others don't? Do you think that people are born bisexual? Why do some people get involved with homosexuality yet later get married and have children? Is there a gene for this behavior? People choose to smoke crack then later become crack addicts. People choose to abuse women then become spouse abusers. People choose to take advantage of children and then become child molesters. Why not just say that all of these people were born to behave they way they do? The reason why not is becasue we take these offenses seriously and won't dare allow these offenders to get off that cleanly. I am not saying that homosexuals are terrible people. I am saying that it is time that people take responsiblity for their actions and stop trying to blame it on the "I was born that way" excuse.
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Yes God loves you always, you just forgot that when you were in heaven you chose to be a lesbian in this dimension to go through this life experience and gather wisdom from it. God is in us all and he is love and so are we. Homosexual is a state of being, it does not define who you are.
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Everyone has a responsibility to find that answer for themselves. Sometime we need to argue for people's right to find that answer independently. Religion has the purpose of guiding the whole of humanity to a certain place that mere mortals cannot perceive. It is a place of advancement for the whole body. Religion achieves that purpose by requesting both constraints and actions. We all feel the primal beast railing against those contraints, refusing the recommended actions. Many of us can hide our inabilities within a religion, beyond a veneer of respectability. Yet some of us who cannot hide their inability, though, perhaps, lesser than others, may find themselves suffering a greater burden of constraint. If they, then, find themselve spinning on the edge of the great galaxy of religion, mayhaps they are, still, able to achieve great spiritual attributes, and like the Earth itself, be a recipient of great bounties from God.
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We are all one Spirit, flowing through the air we breathe as one child of God, asleep in His/Her loving arms. We will awaken, piece by piece as the bits of that photon of God's Light tries to pull itself back into One Being which is God's Beloved Son. We are that Spirit, and not the bodies we made to consider the question of impossibility..."but what if there was not God?" This is the dream of not God. Within the dream of not God is the reality of His Love awakeing us to the Truth that He Is. Religion does not understand what I just said. If you feel you need someone to commune with who will accept you the way you are, and allow you to love your Father, as He loves you, try the Unitarians. I hear they are open minded on these matters:)
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Religion is a man made instituition created in th name of a teacher/group of teachers, who set up some (not all) guidelines for humanity to realise GOD. The teacher didnot exclude ANY being (not only human) so, as long as each being takes upon themselves to realise GOD through any of the Teachers that appeal to them , you can follow them . Homosexuality is only a part of your Physical being that is a part of your spiritual Being, We are all same and one ...on the spirit level..where GOD exists Collectively , you are free to use any of these teachers names to create a new religion as long as you focus on GOD : LOVE ... As a homosexual , you have the same Love for another being just like others , so feel free to dedicate yourself to LOVE..
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God is Not a book or a Religion in specific , you are what you are because of your own experiences, and if your experience make you belive in god belive it . Do what you do and be what you are .
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Religion is within you. Therefore, it is within your power to define it and your place therein.
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The maker does'nt care if you love a man or a women, the important thing is that you love someone else more than yourself. The problem is with sex, sex is something that should only be done to bring a child into the world. This includes straight sex also, you see sex was never meant to be fun or used for profit which is why so many couples get divorced when the sex gets old.MARRY SOMEONE YOU LOVE NOT SOMEONE YOU LOVE TO HAVE SEX WITH...
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There's a big difference between religion and spirituality. Religion is a human institution, created by humans, and therefore is comprised of humans, their faults, failings, foibles and all. Spirituality is about your own personal relationship with the Divine. Now, you asked about your place in -religion- -- and I daresay you may not have one, simply because humans are the way they are (as you have already observed). I don't have a place in religion either. The Roman Catholic Church kicked me out a long time ago because I asked too many questions. I tried to fit in, oh my did I. But I wasn't that sort of person, who could blindly follow things and be expected to take them "on faith." All of this is working up to the point that I think you ought to be less concerned with religion than you are with spirituality. I've come to a more personal spiritual path, and I've found it's rather fulfilling for me. If you require fellowship, though, perhaps you ought to band together with the other people you know, and create your own acceptance. I think it's rather pointless to beg acceptance from people unwilling to give it. I walked that path for a long fruitless time. Best of everything to you.
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The fact that God loves us does not mean that He desires us to do whatever we want. We love our children. That does not mean that our children can simply do whatever they wish regardless of our opinions, regardless of right and wrong.
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Where ever you want it to be. It is hard because people claim to be christian but yet cast people out because they are different. Maybe you have to find your own way and make your own place.
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If you are a lesbian, the Bible does not say a single solitary thing about you. It forbids sexual acts between MEN. It is very straightforward (heh) about that. It does not forbid sexual relations between women, and anyone, especially fundamentalists, who says otherwise is imposing an interpretation on Scripture which is not there. You can make the argument that what you are practicing is not even sinful, even if your lover was married to a man, it's not adultery under Torah law. As to the prohibition in Leviticus against homosexual acts, there are some intrepretations of the Hebrew word in use that say it means "rape", as in, homosexual rape (a frequent occurrence in ancient warfare, used to humiliate an enemy) is forbidden. As it should be.
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Are you referring to the Christian God? If you are, Christianity teaches that God knew you, even in the womb. Not only did he know you, but he formed you in his image and loved you before anyone else. If we are to believe this, then we can say that you fit right in. People get in the way of your relationship with God, but God is always there. Your relationship with God is supposed to be your religion, so you're doing everything right. We all do what is termed as sin. Is homosexuality a sin? I, for one, don't see it as a sin, but I sin every day and people don't stand outside my apartment with signs that say, "It's fudge and sugar, not f*ck and sh*t!" (Trying to poke fun at the, "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!" statements) Bottom line is this: While people may tell you, "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." you can always feel comfortable knowing that God loves Adam, Eve and Steve all the same.
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Im agnostic, ex-catholic, that's between you and God or god not any of these hypocritical asses who like to think they speak for him/her/it But I think all the gay/lesbian in evening TV has reached its max, being a guy I love l***o but enough on primetime tv...dial it back a little
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