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How will anyone be convinced of anothers point of view?

As a Christian living in the liberal state of the U.S. i am faced by many challenges and many people who ask me why I am what I am. After many days of trying to explain my side of Christianity, They throw their knowledge of what they believe in right back at me. and nothing is ever resolved. When will we be convinced of one point of view?

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"and nothing is ever resolved" Maybe something could be resolved if our intentions were different. We seem to think our purpose of communication is to convince another person of our point of view. What if our intention was to just understand each other.....then something is "resolved" or achieve. Two people sharing ideas with one another and getting to know who each other.... Why do we want everyone to think the same thing???????? I think ego is behind this.

well id rather burn for all eternity in hell than accept the christian faith....... so my advice is stop trying to convince people and be at peace cause if you are right and your religion is right then there is nothing you can do to help me but be my friend and we can talk about what we love about wisdom and this miracle that we get to live in

"Know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." ~ Tolstoy ~ That. And, I remember reading a theory about persuasion. The more you disagree, the harder it is to persuade someone. There really is value is seeing another's point of view. If you offer a point of view similar to another's but only slightly different, they are more likely to concede to your side then if your two points of view are radically different.

I learn the most from the people I disagree with and I hope there will always be a diversity of view points. Plus I change my mind all the time, I get one new piece of information or someone rephrases something and I consider it and sometimes it changes what I think. So I suppose even if i convinced someone of my point of view entirely I would meet them later down the road and find out that we disagreed again.

I would have to agree with some of the others who said that it would be a very boring world if everyone always thought the same thing and held the same opinions. To me, it seems we spend too much effort trying to convince others of what we believe and wanting them to feel the same way. Rather, I think we should share our thoughts and ideas, truly listen to theirs and have meaningful conversations without the goal of convincing anyone. I actually have a quote on my Soul Pnacake profile that feels relevant to this conversation...."the shining spark of truth cometh forth only after the clash of differing opinions".- Abdu'l-Baha

it depends on the nature of the belief and the nature of the person. as has been stated many times before, many religious peoples beliefs are based on faith and not logic - therefore, no logic will change their minds. conversely, many non-religious people base their beliefs on reason, and as such, no arguments based on faith with hold any weight. the most likely scenario i see for changing someone's mind is if two people talked whose beliefs were based on reason - and the one saw the other's reasoning to be better - not that that is real likely either... as people can sometimes be attached to their logic as others are attached to their faith....

I don't know. What would it take for anyone else to convince you of their point of view? Are you willing to be changed at all? As for when will we all be convinced of one point of view - the answer is "never, I hope" Honestly. If we all see with the same point of view, we will be bored and sad and not achieve much. It WOULD be nice, I think, if we had a common set of beliefs to jump from - I'm not holding my breath for this - but even with a common set of beliefs, there is still incredible diversity in points of view, that you, as a Christian, must have noticed also.

I don't think everyone should have the same point of view. I think that's why I get angry with some of the "testifying" that goes on. Glad you feel that way: See ya!

"The one who says everything knows nothing, the one who says nothing knows everything"- The Tao Be at peace with your beliefs, as long as you are convinced then there is no need to share in a battle of insecurity. Respect and be respected.

19 That is how many times a hollywood movie mogul wants you to see an advertisement. If you are not going to the movie after 19, you are simply not going to the movie. They have patience and persistence! And they know how to seduce...

I would hope that wasn't the point. I think the point is learning that loving people surpasses the need to be right about things that, if we're honest, we're all probably wrong about, anyway.

I doubt if another's point of view can convince anyone of anything but a well-reasoned discussion with specific examples can certainly encourage someone to revisit or reconsider. Rare is the day that someone listens to someone and says, "Okay, I am totally convinced. You have changed my mind."

I don't think that the idea should be to convince anyone of any point of view; by coming onto sites like these and engaging in debate, what we are doing is: a) asking (not forcing, just asking) others to think rationally and/or reasonably about their own ideas and beliefs, and b) to challenge (not change necessarily, just challenge) our own paradigms and points-of-view. And this is crucial in a mostly democratic culture where we all have a voice in the creation of law.

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I doubt if another's point of view can convince anyone of anything but a well-reasoned discussion with specific examples can certainly encourage someone to revisit or reconsider. Rare is the day that someone listens to someone and says, "Okay, I am totally convinced. You have changed my mind."

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How will anyone be convinced of anothers point of view?

I don't think everyone should have the same point of view. I think that's why I get angry with some of the "testifying" that goes on. Glad you feel that way: See ya!

"The one who says everything knows nothing, the one who says nothing knows everything"- The Tao Be at peace with your beliefs, as long as you are convinced then there is no need to share in a battle of insecurity. Respect and be respected.

19 That is how many times a hollywood movie mogul wants you to see an advertisement. If you are not going to the movie after 19, you are simply not going to the movie. They have patience and persistence! And they know how to seduce...

I would hope that wasn't the point. I think the point is learning that loving people surpasses the need to be right about things that, if we're honest, we're all probably wrong about, anyway.

I doubt if another's point of view can convince anyone of anything but a well-reasoned discussion with specific examples can certainly encourage someone to revisit or reconsider. Rare is the day that someone listens to someone and says, "Okay, I am totally convinced. You have changed my mind."

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