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Why the supernatural?

Why do we feel it necessary to invent the supernatural as an explanation for what is? I can see how a belief in God, the Spirit, heaven, angels, ghosts, demons can be reassuring and bear explanatory power for some, but why? When we look at the world as it is to our eyes and ears, is it not enough to perceive the interconnectedness of it all without adding an additional, unsupported, layer? I think it's a much more elegant world when we really get to study it and learn how it works and how we really fit into the picture without exalting ourselves to some hyper-natural level. We're all just part of a system, flowing and changing constantly and in all directions. We know how most of it works, and it works beautifully. What are your opinions? Why?

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People obviously don't know everything. That much is obvious. It's also obvious that we are always trying to know and understand everything in our lives, scientific or not (i.e. gossip). People fear the unknown, and try to come up with their own answers, and eventually believe it to be the truth. Within religion, there are so many different belief systems, so many branches, each with a different view or belief. Just within the Protestant system, there are hundreds of branches, and none of them agree, even though they supposedly have the same God. Really, it's inventing your own God according to your own understanding. We are not meant to know everything (also obvious), but fear of the unknown makes us unwilling to accept that. The appeal to religion is having the answers, but if we knew everything about our world, wouldn't that put us on the same level as God? As MntGrl said, we will never have scientific proof of God. We can't fully define him with words, and we can't define him with science. However, we do have emotional and spiritual proof of God. My life, and my experiences, are my proof. But It's not like I can stick my experiences into a formula. And I can tell you all about how God has worked in my life, but the only way to prove it to another is to give them the means of experiencing it themself.

I agree with the premise of your question, and it seems to me that for something to be "supernatural" it must be extra-natural, i.e. outside the natural world. The way I figure it, if you are exterior to this world, you are outside the cause-effect relationship, so what's the point? Something exterior to our Universe cannot effect anything in our Universe. Therefore any effect we see, regardless of how we feel, must have had a natural cause. But people want to live forever. I personally think it's vanity to presume that we're so important we were picked out special and set above all other beings and get to live forever. It doesn't pass the mirror check, meaning if I said I believed that, I couldn't look myself in the mirror.

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@calholli first time and space are not infinte just big. Second emotion and conciousness may not be fully understood. But we are getting close. Thought and feelings are directly connected to the brain and through science we can see how that has formed. We may not understood the full complexity at the moment but that is still no reason to just say: God did it. Thirdly of course energy isnt supernatural. recycling matter isnt supernatural. We do it with uclear reactor converting matter to enrgy and back again. Just because something is complex and difficult to understand for some definitly does not mean the supernatural did it. You are searching for what is known as the god of the gaps. A logical fallacy which states that if something is not understood the supernatural must have done it.

"I think it's a much more elegant world when we really get to study it and learn how it works and how we really fit into the picture" .. I agree... but to see the world only as it is would not explain why we have emotions.... why do we like music and art... sexy women......... why do we dream, why are there de ja vu's, quencidences.. ? the fact is, there are more Layer's to it than meets the eye... our consciousness is still not understood... the unlimited power of belief is misunderstood... space and time being infinite, in the small and large.. is not understood.... the fact that we exist is proof of the supernatural.... life should not be possible... we are just simple elements temporarily bonded in form... recycling each cell in 7-10 yrs..... the fact that there is not a single thing about you that is original from birth... except some memory maybe, which is only electricity recorded in our calculator mind... "energy"... we are energy... recycling matter.... if thats not supernatural... IDK..

Maybe God isn't some guy watching us from above. Maybe God IS the interconnectedness that you mention, the balance in the world. That's how God appears to me.

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